Have you ever experienced church hurt? Have you had moments that made you question whether you’d ever step foot into church again? Or have you ever walked through unexplainable loss that made you wonder if God is truly there or cares about you?

Nicki Koziarz

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In today’s conversation, Holly and I talk with Nicki Koziarz to hear about her leadership journey and her story. You’ll hear Nicki’s take on what it means to be a leader, what the worst form of leadership looks like, and how a deep church hurt led her into an unexpected journey of leading other women.

You’ll also hear how Nicki’s life has been impacted by mental illness and how Nicki has seen God’s faithfulness through devastating losses. Finally we dive into how leaders can respond to others when they are experiencing doubt or loss.

I know you’re going to be blessed by this conversation with Nicki, and I truly believe it will be an encouragement to you.


Key Points Discussed with Nicki Koziarz:

  • Nicki’s life and leadership journey [5:15]
  • Leadership lessons [11:15]
  • How mentors have impacted Nicki [15:35]
  • How Nicki has developed her message [19:00]
  • Leading through brokenness [23:00]
  • How Nicki has walked through difficult seasons of loss [25:49]
  • Navigating doubt [33:00]
  • The 5 decisions to make when life is hard and doubt is rising [38:00]
  • Responding to doubt especially after church hurt [43:26]
  • Habits and routines that help Nicki stay healthy [49:33]
  • Nicki’s advice to younger leaders [53:50]
  • Leaders are Learners [55:30]



  • “Leadership has a high calling and a high standard.”
  • “Leaders have to know how to listen to God.”
  • “The worst form of leadership i​​s when it becomes about us and our agenda.”
  • “Always ask over assume.”
  • “The Lord was very kind to me during that season.”
  • “​​There’s a difference between speaking in the midst of brokenness and speaking on the other side of brokenness.”
  • “​​It’s got to be a motivation question like: why are we sharing what we’re sharing? What’s the reason? What’s the purpose behind this?”
  • “You’re in charge of the plan, but I’m in control of my obedience.”
  • “Obedience is ultimately a decision.”
  • “How can I build a better system so that people can trust me as a leader?”
  • “We have got to stop we need to stop trying to make sense of God.”
  • “The way God uses me to speak to 1000 women is the same way God uses me to sit at my table with my family. And we can’t get those out of balance, because it gets really messy in our souls.”
  • “Always remember that everyone has something to teach you. And sometimes that person teaches you who you never want to become as a leader.”
  • “I kind of live my life in that posture of ‘everyone has something to teach me’.” 
  • “How do we grow and actually learn how to communicate what we believe if we don’t ever hear anything different?” – Esther Littlefield


Links & Resources Mentioned:

Proverbs 31
John Maxwell YouTube
Dr. Tony Evans Study Bible
Evan Carmichael YouTube Channel
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Connect With Nicki:


Nicki Koziarz is a three-time best-selling author and Bible study teacher with Proverbs 31

Ministries. She is a wife, mom, writing coach and first generation farmer. Her and her family live

just outside of Charlotte, NC on a small farm they affectionately have named, The Fixer Upper

Farm. Nicki is passionate about helping women connect with God’s Word in powerful and

practical ways.

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